156. We never thought China’s ambition was to be like America tomorrow

Simon Edelsten and Alex Illingworth, managers of the Mid Wynd International Investment Trust, tell us why governance issues played a key role in their decision to sell all of their holdings in China. The pair also discuss the role of healthcare and automation as key themes in their portfolio and why they hold Pfizer despite being adverse to large pharmaceutical companies. The managers also tell us why the best returns from wind farms, as a low carbon theme, are behind us.
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The Mid Wynd International Investment Trust looks to grow real wealth by investing in a portfolio of high-quality, global equities. Managed by Simon Edelsten and Alex Illingworth, the trust invests across numerous themes, such as automation; online services; scientific equipment; healthcare costs; and Fintech, with each one not only having a promising five-year growth trajectory but also including some of the best quality growth companies available. Investments are made if the team believes the market is not recognising the long-term growth potential of a stock, with the final portfolio consisting of between 55-70 companies.

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What’s covered in this podcast:

  • How changing trends in society help the managers spot long-term growth industries they want to invest in [0:16]
  • How the team review these themes and adjust if the world around them changes [1:52]
  • The role of automation in both worker and energy efficiency [3:26]
  • Why managed care companies are the gatekeepers when it comes to reducing costs in healthcare [5:09]
  • Why scientific testing companies are playing a much bigger role in healthcare than they ever have before [6:30]
  • Why they are happy to invest in Pfizer but avoid other large pharmaceutical companies [7:32]
  • The managers explain which warning signs were a catalyst for them to start selling all their holdings in China [10:50]
  • Finding new opportunities in the ESG space [13:38]
  • Simon tell us why the best returns from wind farms have already been made [15:25]
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